A minority of dyslexics have visual problems as a primary source of their reading problems. I have never said that dyslexia is a visual problem but if an intervention ignores the visual problems that some dyslexics have it will fail for those dyslexics.
Well since Dr & DR Shaywitz seem to come to their conclusions from fMRI data and are also promoting sort of the same phonics and phonemic interventions as being the only valid and effective dyslexia interventions and useful for all dyslexics, I say open your eyes and look and the data again.
FMRI data does not support any universal problems for all dyslexics. If the data supported that position then you could identify a person as dyslexic or not by fMRI.
As for dyslexia and vision not being related if you are using fMRI studies to show the phonics relationship the fMRI vision studies should be as valid. This dyslexia and vision fMRI study shows similar results to all the dyslexia and language areas of the brain studies .
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The human brain consists of a patchwork of regions that carry out different activities. At least 32 regions (labeled with a "V") are thought to participate in vision. Region V5, for example, seems to be crucial for tracking moving objects; V1 and V2 recognize colors and patterns. A number of studies in recent years have targeted a visual pathway that includes V5 as a trouble zone in people with dyslexia.
fMRI images of people with (bottom) and without (top) dyslexia, taken while looking at stationary patterns (left) or moving patterns (right) of dots
In 1996, Eden and her coworkers at the National Institue of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, Md., (where she worked at the time) confirmed this association "
Pay attention readers, the reason that different dyslexia interventions are being promoted is that not one is effective for all dyslexics. Several government studies have found that systematic phonics instruction from a professional is the best reading help for children struggling to read. I do not and can not understand how that Best can be perverted into a conclusion that phonics instruction is effective for all dyslexics.
When there is found a reading instruction method that is Effective for all dyslexics there will be singing from the roof tops. Holly Shapiro says all her students learn from her phonics program and I assume she is talking about reading. I do not believe it. She either has a very low standard of success or is being misleading.
I am not saying that her particular program is good bad or indifferent. I am not saying that she is doing anything different than many other people selling dyslexia interventions. The reason I am not saying anything is because it is almost impossible to find what the results of these interventions are.
How would an effective intervention be defined? At the low end of effective I would at least require that the dyslexics would not be falling further behind . At the higher end an effective intervention would yield people who read at a level that would be expected from their intelligence.
Quack Quack Quack . Who was that . " Readers should also be made aware that Mr. John A. Hayes is an Internet marketing quack, who might be practicing optometry without a license."
says Holly Shapiro. Internet Marketing QUACK. Hummmmmm It seems that what started me off on this subject was all the PAID articles with PAID links showing up on my google alerts and wasting my time that were made to seem to be articles by different people.
Personally I don't use paid links or write articles as if I was a third party with no interest but the truth. That is considered Black Hat SEO techniques and frowned upon by google. Let's see sleazy black hat Internet Marketing techniques by Holly saying all her stuents learn ( I assume reading) no dyslexia testing needed, no guarantee Quack Quack. That is misleading . I did notice that you kept changing a few words here and there in that bogus article touting your place with links saying you are better than everyone else. Oh that's right, if you didn't change a few words now and then google would notice they were duplicate content and they would never see the light of day.
If I was trying to generate really good success stories for a dyslexia intervention, I might suggest that any poor reader in trouble not be tested for dyslexia but just start paying for the intervention. That way if I was lucky, I could get paid thousands for what could have been achieved with a few hours of after school instruction and when the non-dyslexics started reading as well as they should I could claim a very effective dyslexia intervention. Oh, I am sorry, that's not my technique that is what Holly Shapiro does. Quack Quack!
But if I did that I couldn't sleep at night. I would feel I was over promoting and misleading dyslexics to think my intervention could help all of them. Isn't that the definition of being a QUACK . I bet if I was going to be that unethical I sure couldn't offer any guarantee or for that matter give any kind of indication of what results my intervention might have. Paid links ,Paid articles as ads, fake claims of helping every dyslexic, duplicate content and I am the internet marketing quack.
It might be argued that because dyslexics differ in their specific problems and severity of those problems it is difficult to predict what the individual results would be. I suggest that if the people charging for the intervention can not evaluate an individual and come to a conclusion as to how well the individual will do at least in a general way then, they don't understand the relationship of the individual's problems to the intervention.
I on the other hand, having become familiar with the I have the answer for all dyslexics interventions, represent my visual dyslexia intervention to those for which it is 100% successful only and I identify who will or will not be helped by them. Rather than quacking up customers who will not benefit from my product I am the anti-salesman shooing them away.
To Holly who would say I may be practicing optometry without a license I say put that joint down and get your facts straight. The glasses I sell are usually without prescription and the prescription glasses I sell have the prescription provided by the customer. Nothing I do requires a license.
Holly you are welcome on my blog any day to voice your opinions. I am sorry but it is you that seems to have all the internet marketing hype and a narrow and incomplete understanding of dyslexia. You charge more for 2 hours of instruction that I do for my glasses and I refund the price and shipping if my customers ship them back. Who is the Quack??????????????
People like you and Shaywitz with your concept that dyslexia is a single condition and can be fixed with a single intervention are wrong . I am not even saying that your program isn't a good one for many or even most dyslexics. Teaching phonics is very important for the majority of dyslexics but it is not the whole answer for every dyslexic as you imply.
I have people calling me up and telling me how they have spent thousands for dyslexia interventions that didn't help much. Thinking about it now I have never had a pair of glasses returned by someone with whom I have discussed their vision.
You can not tell me that when you were working with children yourself that you didn't sometime have thoughts after the first interview that that child wasn't going to do well with your intervention.
My problem is with people who oversell their dyslexia interventions and drain out all the available money from non-responders so they end up stopping their hopes of finding an intervention that works for them because they go broke. Offer a guarantee and I won't be as harsh.
The worse possible financial situation someone buying my glasses could be in from trying my glasses is that they would be out the cost of return shipping . Trying your intervention for 3 months would cost $2500 with no guarantee of any help. Take the money and run is your business philosophy right ?
By the way ,your ignoring fluency and comprehension and assuming that they will develop on their own after the dyslexic learns phonics IMO is missing the point that the faster a dyslexic is helped the better off he or she is. Your program could be better .
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What you are saying does not make very much sense. Yes it may be over prize and yes saying it helps all dyslexics might be not the right approach, however, are you a dyslexic? have you been to her classes? Have you had numerous complaints by customers of Dr. Shapiro that approach does not work? Yea there are many people out their selling false hopes, but Holly surely is not one of them. She says, "I found that while some children learned quickly with most any instruction, all my students were able to learn using phonics to instill the connection between sounds and symbols." She is not saying that all Dyslexics will learn to read from her approach. What she is saying is that the Orton phonics approach is the best approach, approved by the GOVERNMENT, and most schools do not use this approach, because they do not have teachers qualified for teaching these methods. She says all her students have learned to instill the connection between sounds and symbols. You are making the assumption that SHe is saying all dyslexics will learn from her techniques. Also indeed, Dr. Shapiro Has had thoughts that the approach might not work after the first interview. I am a Dyslexic, I could not read until after the sixth grade. I WAS tested for Dyslexia. after my first time seeing Holly She told my Mother that her approach might be very difficult for me to use, due to my older age, she said that her approach along with any approach for helping Dyslexics is best if the Dyslexia is recognized at a young age. MY school indeed had the thought that I suffered from Dyslexia, however they did not do anything about it. These Special Education Teachers know when a student may have this disorder, And I had to go to Holly because my school did not offer this me with the right approach to reading. I was reading at a 3rd grade level in the sixth grade, my parents ended threatening the school to go to court because of this, NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND ACT-BUSH, and the school ended up covering half of the thoughts. So this I say that it is not HOlly fault, however it is the government/schools fault for not being able to recognize Dyslexics at a young age, and not having certified teachers at schools. I Learned to read from the Orton-Gillingham phonics approach, I learned comprehension though other means before going to Holly, She taught me fluency. TO you I say, do your research and step back from Holly cause he is a caring truthful person who is not taking advantage of people. Look at the opportunity cost for a business like hers, she has several FULL TIME teachers with only a limited number of openings trying to provide for her family. I would not recommend anyone else, in fact I know several people who I have recommended who had the same success I did. Also its all about the student-if the student wants to learn, wants to be successful- then with this approach they have that opportunity. IF you don not put in the work, you wont be successful. I ended up getting my highest ACT score in reading and know attend the University of OKlahoma.
I was reading at a 3rd grade level in the sixth grade, my parents ended threatening the school to go to court because of this, NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND ACT-BUSH, and the school ended up covering half of the thoughts. So this I say that it is not HOlly fault, however it is the government/schools fault for not being able to recognize Dyslexics at a young age, and not having certified teachers at schools. I Learned to read from the Orton-Gillingham phonics approach, I learned comprehension though other means before going to Holly, She taught me fluency. TO you I say, do your research and step back from Holly cause he is a caring truthful person who is not taking advantage of people. Look at the opportunity cost for a business like hers, she has several FULL TIME teachers with only a limited number of openings trying to provide for her family. I would not recommend anyone else, in fact I know several people who I have recommended who had the same success I did. Also its all about the student-if the student wants to learn, wants to be successful- then with this approach they have that opportunity. IF you don not put in the work, you wont be successful. I ended up getting my highest ACT score in reading and know attend the University of OKlahoma.
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